Mount Watkin/Hikaroroa Open Day


4. 26/4/2023 Mt Watkin. Trampers. Grade 4.5. Leaders Graeme Thurlow and Phil Keene.

26 Apr View of Mt Watkin from the car Pam
View of Mt Watkin from the car. Photo & caption Pam

On a cool day 7 trampers came and we headed straight up Mt Watkin first.

26 Apr Mt Watkin On our way, meaning straight up Mount Watkin! Marijke
On our way, meaning straight up Mount Watkin! Photo & caption Marijke
26 Apr It was steep... Pam
And it was steep. Photo & caption Pam
26 Apr Mt Watkin And the wind blew... Phil
And the wind blew… Photo & caption Phil
26 Apr At the top of Mount Watkin, cold, blustery, lonely! Marijke
At the top of Mount Watkin, cold, blustery, lonely! Photo & caption Marijke

With wind in exposed places especially at the top we all enjoyed a rest and a sit down for a well-earned morning tea. Great views of the snow on the Rocky Pillars but slightly misty in the distance.

26 Apr Mt Watkin We found some shelter on the lee side of the mountain to have our morning tea. Marijke
We found some shelter on the lee side of the mountain to have our morning tea. Photo & caption Marijke

Descending all agreed it was a grade 5.

26 Apr It was rocky Pam
It was rocky! Photo & caption Pam
26 Apr rocks Phil
Laying down in an ancient Celtic ring? Photo & caption Phil

A welcome rest was needed amidst the rocks before continuing to the boundary fence with Smith’s farm. Graham T’s jovial comments “We haven’t got far to go’ received responses like “Yeah, right??”

26 Apr Following down the fence line Pam
Following down the fence line. Photo & caption Pam

After the descent to Smiths boundary when we looked at distance and time, we were shocked at how little distance we had gone for the time it took.

Now easy going to the rewards of the blackberries near the boundary and onto lunch at the DCC hut which was wired and set up for entertainment with LED lights!

26 Apr It was sheer luxury to have lunch in a hut. Marijke
It was sheer luxury to have lunch in a hut! Photo & caption Marijke

Further on down the western track we exited into long grass circled by forest and then entering the forest we bush bashed.

26 Apr These vines weren't here when I did the recee (Graham T). Pam
These vines weren’t here when I did the recce (Graham T). Photo & caption Pam

Zig zagging and encountering vines we continued down until finally reaching the creek for our climb up and out finally to a track out through a gate into Noone’s property.

26 Apr The stream at the bottom Phil
The stream at the bottom. Photo & caption Phil
26 Apr then up the goat track Phil
…then up the goat track. Photo & caption Phil
26 Apr Regrouping after the bush bash Pam
Regrouping after the bush bash. Photo & caption Pam

A longish walk back to the car and comments were ‘It’s good we knocked the b…. (Mt Watkin) at the start of the day’ and not had to tackle it at the end of the day.

Good comradeship, jovial comments and laughter eased the challenges of the day.

Thanks to David Smith and Zac Noone for giving permission to tramp on their property.

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Titri Wetlands Reserve and Titri Park. Taieri Ferry Bridge and Waihola.

3. Titri Wetland, Waihola Township and Lake. Hikers. Leaders Eleanore Ryan

On Wednesday 26 April 2023, it was very windy when 19 of us hikers arrived at the lake, meeting up with 3 from Outram. What a champ Bruce was joining 21 ladies!!! Also welcome to the new members.

We started off at the Sinclair, Bungard and Huddleston trees near the campground entry. My Great, Great Maternal Sinclair Grandparents arrived in 1857 from the Orkney Islands with 10 surviving family (they had 13 babies in 27 years). On arrival after 100 day voyage on the Māori to Taieri Ferry the father and older sons (my G. Grandfather bought a horse on the voyage) set off to find land and build a house. They settled at the junction of the Henley and Titri roads— which was the main road through to the early 1960’s. Between them they owned bordering farms, married and raised large families. My brother still farms Titri which has been in the family for over 100 years.

Hikers 26 Apr Eleanore giving us some interesting history Helen
Eleanore giving us some interesting history. Photo & caption Helen
Hikers 26 Apr An older timer's cottage now derelict Margreet
An older timer’s cottage (now derelict). Photo & caption Margreet

The Baumgardt (now Bungard) family arrived in 1872, along with 40 Polish families and settled round Allanton and Waihola, mainly employed building the Railway line south. They too also farmed round Waihola, and Taieri Ferry.

We walked up past the school and had smoko at a little cottage that would have housed a large family back in the day. Up the road a little further we stopped outside what was the home of Arthur Draper. He came from England and set up a Business in Outram in 1909 making Cricket Bats from Willow. He moved to Waihola in 1917. Over time he made around 10,000 bats from local Willow that had dried for 2 years. By the 1930’s lighter imported bats were proving to be more popular.

Hikers 26 Apr The house where Arthur Draper made the first cricket bats. Helen
The house where Arthur Draper made the first cricket bats. Photo & caption Helen

Up the hill overlooking the lake is the Cemetery, where a lot of the original Settlers are buried.

Hikers 26 Apr Eleanore pointed out historic graves at Waihola Cemetery Margeet
Eleanore pointed out historic graves at Waihola Cemetery. Photo & caption Margreet

It was then down the road back to the far end of the lake where we found shelter for lunch. The lake was really stirred up with the wind.

Hikers 26 Apr Lunch Margreet
A lunch spot out of the wind. Photo & caption Margreet
Hikers 26 Apr Sun on the lake Helen
Sun on the lake. Photo & caption Helen

Back to the cars and a short drive down to Titri wetland where we had seen the 2 Macracapa trees planted alongside a home built in the 1920’s. Some years later it was cut in half and dragged over the Island to the Waipouri river where it was floated down the Taieri river to Taieri Mouth—This Villa is still in ownership of a visitor we have had out a couple of times.

Hikers 26 Apr Titri Nature Trail Margreet
Titri Nature Trail. Photo & caption Margreet

A short drive back to Black Swan for Coffee, cake and chat—where we were served with a smile, which is not always the case these days.

Hikers 26 Apr Afternoon tea at the Black Swan Margreet
Afternoon tea at the Black Swan. Photo & caption Margreet

Thanks to Jenny Flack for keeping an eye on the tail Enders. Not many km’s, hopefully you all enjoyed the outing hearing snippets of local history.

Eleanore Ryan


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A Cancelled Tramping Day

2. 12 April 2023 Trampers and Hikers 

Choices for Hikers:  Stay home and knit or brave the elements of mist and drizzle with potential rain but leave the Waihola Wanderings for another time.  11 chose to go for a local walk.

The course was plotted as we left the Peter Johnson carpark, going along the riverside, turning at the helicopter pad and wending our way over to Wingatui Rd and Gladstone Rd North.

It was decided to have morning tea under cover.  Wingatui Station (built in 1875) was a likely possibility.  However, the leader veered off track and we arrived at Neil’s model railway instead.

Morning tea in luxury at Morrisons. Caption and photo Helen
Morning tea in luxury at Morrisons. Caption and photo Helen
View from their house of fog Caption and photo Helen
View from their house of fog Caption and photo Helen

This of course provided shelter as he coped with the unexpected invasion and happily displayed rail/train manoeuvres.

Neil Morrisons trains - amazing Caption and photos Helen
Neil Morrisons trains – amazing Caption and photos Helen

Trains

Dry and refreshed, we passed the evidence of autumn in the yellow, gold and red tree colours, and wended our way back to the carpark after a pleasant 10 kms of Mosgiel Meanderings.

Hikers passing by Caption and photo Carole
Hikers passing by Caption and photo Carole

Eleanore and Carole

The Trampers choice

As a weather alert was given, safety required that we could not go to Rosella Ridge, so it was decided we would meet at Woodhaugh Gardens.  After discussion, we headed towards Bethunes Gully. The rain had eased so we walked beside the Leith with some nice street art on the walls of the Leith.

Street art surviving the students !. Caption and photo Pam
Street art surviving the students !. Caption and photo Pam

We continued past the gardens, into North East Valley, past Dunedin North Intermediate school, then Baldwin Street(no takers),  Dunedin Hospice and Ross Home.  We detoured into Chingford Park, a nice stone home, which catered for weddings.

Chingford Park- Discussing the weather!!! Caption and photo Pam
Chingford Park- Discussing the weather!!! Caption and photo Pam

We stopped at Leith Harrier and Soccer grounds for morning tea.

Morning tea under shelter at Chingford Pavilion. Caption and photo Pam
Morning tea under shelter at Chingford Pavilion. Caption and photo Pam

Moving on we passed some garden plaques on a fence. Into Norwood Street we continued to Forrester Park (bmx bike park) then into Bethunes Gully.  The good 35 minutes of uphill, required some reduction of gear before an uphill climb.  On the way a large tree had fallen and was being removed. We passed a couple of waterfalls,5 bridges over Lyndsay Creek and got to the top at 12.05 – lunchtime.

Soggy sandwiches eaten on Bethunes track. Caption and photo Pam
Soggy sandwiches eaten on Bethunes track. Caption and photo Pam

The return to the bottom took 30 mins, past the Normanby Tavern (now closed), Ross Home, then via a track behind the Hospice, thanks John G.  We continued back onto the main road to NEV shops back to Woodhaugh and the cars. As some had cooled off due to drizzle, it was decided no coffees but a couple of pieces of chocolate fudge sufficed.

Distance 16.18km Elevation 445m actual tramping time 3hrs 6min.

Thanks Graeme S for being TEC. A fun day out.  Phil.


Feburary 2018

Thirteen turned out for coffee. (Judy pic and caption.)

February 2018

Taieri Mouth – Inc Millennium, Moturata Island, Akatore, Alanton Block

No. 78 on old hardcopy list of 113 club tramps. “Knarston Park Sth Coast (Ask Jean Young) Farm”
15. 29/3/2023. Millennium Track, Taieri Mouth.  Leaders Dave and Mike

I seriously questioned my sanity on the drive from sub tropical Port Chalmers to Mosgiel for this weeks walk. The torrential rain and hailstones on the Southern Motorway left me with a sense of foreboding. However, 17 hikers eventually assembled at the meeting place at Knarston Park on Taieri Beach for what turned out to be a really enjoyable walk with the predicted rain showers non-existent.

Morning smoko was held on the verandah at Jay’s river mouth crib where we could admire the house extension at one neighbouring property and the dismantling of a Kauri boat on another.

29 Mar Hikers Millenium Track morning tea Helen
Morning tea at Jay’s crib. Photo & caption Helen

From there it was a pleasant river side walk on the Millennium Track and boardwalks before starting the grunt up the hill to the welcome seats where we had lunch before re-tracing our steps back to the cars.

29 Mar Hikers Millenium Track On the track Mike
Millennium Track. Photo & caption Mike
29 Mar Hikers Millenium Track Taieri view Helen
View from the lunch seat. Photo & caption Helen
29 Mar Hikers Millenium Track Lunch Helen
Lunch. Photo Helen

Consensus of opinion is that the grade should be re-classified as a 3.5 as Sir Edmund Hillary got a Knighthood for climbing hills that steep. The return to the cars was achieved without mishap and tiffin was taken by some at the Brighton Cafe.

Thanks to Dave Roberts for leading at a leisurely pace that made the uphill sections enjoyable. Total distance walked was 9.5km

Mike Webb


14. 14/12/2022. Taieri Mouth. Leader Phil
” Aah numbers seemed a bit down at the meet n greet so there must be a few heading straight to the Hall at Taieri Mouth (Apologies were received from Carole and Neil Morrison who we hope to see back with us in the New Year). And yes sure enough at the Hall people and cars everywhere, added to by contractors working on the hall and yoga underway, although it seemed more like line dancing to me… After dropping off an array of good looking finger food cars were sorted and off 33 went to Knarston Park, and we were joined for the first time by Rowena McSkimming, who had bought finger food (!) on her first outing, well done, and Neil H grandson.
14 Dec At the start point at Taieri Mouth Helen
At the start point at Taieri Mouth. Photo & caption Helen
14 Dec Setting off beside the Taieri river for the beach Pam
Setting off beside the Taieri river for the beach. Photo & caption Pam
We shambled off down past the river to the beach, which on the day seemed like Waikiki; the wind was quite gentle compared with the day before recce, however the driftwood ‘cabbage tree’ needed it’s socks pulled up….it was a cruisy walk along the beach with no flow from the wetlands to cross, ORC were to open the mouth on the Friday. Baby seals playing in the surf the day before had obviously gone home to Mum.
14 Dec The beach art John
The beach art. Photo & caption John
14 Dec Panaroma Taieri Mouth beach art draws its biggest crowd John
Panorama Taieri Mouth beach art draws its biggest crowd. (Click to enlarge). Photo & caption John

We followed the track into Livingstonia Park for morning tea, making use of all the facilities provided.

14 Dec Morning Tea Phil
Morning Tea. Photo Phil

I was so relaxed I nearly forgot to share my bag of goodies…, but finally remembered, I must be getting older…. Quite a lot of interest was shown in the display boards as we left the Park and walked down ‘main street’ to the entrance to the Alan Green Wetland area.

14 Dec Beside the wetland Phil
Beside the wetlands. Photo Phil
14 Dec Livingstone Wetlands Pam
Livingstone Wetlands. Photo & caption Pam

We dawdled and chatted around the wetland, negotiating the Number 8 wire gates….and off through the forest and the dappled light on the forest floor; what was the sweet scent in the air? Not cabbage trees, not Olearia Fragrantissima shrubs……The sun seemed even hotter when we emerged from the bush, to enjoy the panoramic views of the area.

14 Dec View out across the wetlands Pam
View out across the wetlands with Taieri Island/Moturata Island in the background. Photo & caption Pam

On the return, the group spread out to re-group at the third gate, but as our estimated return time to the Hall was slipping, initiative was shown by the ‘Hall’ team to drive to Coutts Gully road and pick us up and return to Knarston Park, and then the Hall.

14 Dec Heading back to the hall for lunch John
Heading back to the hall for lunch. Photo & caption John

Everyone was accounted for and yes more folk had arrived down for lunch which was great.

14 Dec Fantastic food Helen
Fantastic food. Photo & caption Helen

Following a moment’s silence to remember absent friends and family, followed by Ian Fleming’s grace, 55 folk enjoyed a delicious lunch, supplemented by chocolate goodies from Neil S, another with a near Xmas birthday. This was followed by an update from Anne Ward on the planning for the Bannockburn week in March. After lunch was cleared away Grant Shackell provided a generous bracket of Xmas music, with good crowd participation on occasions! Thank you, Grant.

14 Dec Beautiful singing by Grant Helen
Beautiful singing by Grant. Photo & caption Helen

Thanks also to Jay and the team for setting and cleaning up the food and Hall, especially after not getting full access till after 10.30am.

Another very successful Xmas club outing and yes, the first walk for 2023 is the 11 January!

Ho ho

Phil K


13. 07/09/2022. Alanton Block of the Wenita Forests. Grade 2 –  $8. Leaders: Esther & Karen, Alex & Bruce S.

Forty-six Club members set off on the combined tramp in the Allanton Block of the Wenita Forests, 7.13 km south of the Big Rock School at Brighton.

On the forestry road -M2 - Pam
On the forestry road -M2 (photo & caption Pam)

A welcome was extended to Roger and Barbara who are testing the water. We proceeded along Daphne Road passing the D7 sign and turned into Margaret Road.

Regrouping at the Margaret Road intersection - Jenni
Regrouping at the Margaret Road intersection (photo & caption Jenni)

We had morning tea near a log at about 10 am.

Morning Tea stop on side of road - John
Morning Tea stop on side of road (photo & caption John)

We then proceeded up Margaret Road to Big Stone Road and saw some logging trucks, with logs, emerging from Daphne Road.The lunch venue was changed from the planned spot near Margaret Road to near the start of Kathleen Road.

Catching up over lunch - Pam
Catching up over lunch (photo & caption Pam)
Lunch stop out of the wind - John
Lunch stop out of the wind (photo & caption John)

After lunch we proceeded down Kathleen Road and then along Margaret
Road back to the cars.

Happy leaders heading downhill after lunch - Jenni
Happy leaders heading downhill after lunch (photo & caption Jenni)
Heading back to the coast through Farm land - Pam
Heading back to the coast through Farm land (photo & caption Pam)
And still chatting on the road - Pam
And still chatting on the road (photo & caption Pam)

Distance travelled approximately 10 km. Climb 243 m. The weather remained cool but there was no rain. A large group had refreshments at the Brighton Café.

Looking north over forestry to Blackhead quarry -Pam
Looking north over forestry to Blackhead quarry (photo & caption Pam)

Our thanks are due to all the leaders: Karen, Esther, Alex and Bruce S. In addition, we thank Liz for her liaison with the Brighton Café and Wenita Forests for permission to enter the forest.

Bruce Spittle


12. 20 October 2021. Taieri Mouth. Leaders Bob Mitchell and Barbara Shackell

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Bob and Barbara our leaders for the day (caption & photo Clive)

“Twenty (or was it 21?!) folk set out for the Akatore River bridge, where Hike Leader, Bob Mitchell, was to meet us at the anticipated road works traffic lights on the hill climbed at the end of a previous tramp.  There was sufficient off-road parking on the south side of the bridge for all vehicles and we were quickly off, heading downstream to the coast like bits of colourful flotsam, passing as we went a wading spoonbill which took off and flew over us.

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Morning tea Akatore Inlet (caption & photo Clive)

We settled ourselves for morning tea among nesting oystercatchers before tackling the short sharp climb into farmland above the coast.  It was very pleasant strolling south in perfect weather. The forward motion stalled briefly to watch a group of talented surfers riding the regular rollers coming in.

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Watching the surfers (caption & photo Clive)

Unfortunately I was too taken with the conversation with a pleasant land-bound surfer to remember the name she gave the ‘point’.

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Scenic Otago coastline (caption & photo Clive)

It’s obvious it’s not only trampers that the obliging farmer allows access across his paddocks.  Eventually we set off further south, cross-country, until we dropped down onto a sheltered rocky spot for lunch where a seal kept a benign eye on his human companions.  From the lunch stop the group gradually moved up and inland across lush clover filled paddocks and along farm tracks which brought us out onto the Akatore-Taieri Mouth Road.

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Homeward bound Akatore Conservation Area (caption & photo Clive)

Several kilometres on, we were back at the vehicles with doubts about our ability to reach the Brighton Cafe which was expecting us about 2.15pm.  Unfortunately, when we finally arrived at 2.55pm our fears were realised and we were declined service as they were closing at 3pm.  From that point we made our own way back to Peter Johnstone Park carpark, and from there, home.  Happy, a little sun/windburned, and feeling like we had actually walked the 12 km the fitbits suggested.

Thanks to Bob for his planning, and leading this day.


11. Taieri Mouth Millennium track, Alan Green track. Leaders Jay Devlin, Jan Butcher, Alec and Liz

 On Wednesday the 9th of December approximately 60 members met at the Leitch Memorial Hall at Taieri Mouth for a walk and a shared Christmas Lunch. It was a picture perfect day and showed Taieri Mouth at its best. There were two walks on offer, The Millenium Track and the Alan Green Track.  Most opted for the Alan green Track as it was one that was new to many members. The Alan Green Track is off Moturata Road and is a private conservation track.  It meanders round wetlands and is home to a large variety of bird life which then leads on to a gully with fine examples of podocarps.
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“Our Leaders” – Photo and Caption John
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“Walking past a magnificent flowering rata tree.” – Photo and Caption Helen
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“The picturesque wetland.” – Photo and Caption Gordon

 

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“A peaceful spot.” – Photo and Caption John
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“Time to regroup and take in the view.” – Photo and Caption John

The track is very narrow but well formed and is lovely to walk on. At the top of the gully you get lovely views of Taieri Mouth and surrounding farmland. On the way back Alec led us through a track off Livingstonia park where we had great sea views. We got back to the lunch venue 12.30pm.   Arthur lead his group on the Millenium Track which many of us are familiar with. Thirty six folk enjoyed the walks while the remainder were happy to stay and catch up with those they hadn’t seen in a while. Jill, Jan B and their team of helpers stayed at the hall and set up the tables in a Christmas theme and put out delicious food brought by everyone.

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“An enjoyable lunch with amazing food.” – Photo and Caption Helen
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‘More mature club members.” – Photo and Caption Helen
Faye, Alec and Liz led us in “We Wish You A Merry Christmas”
So to everyone have a safe and Happy Christmas.  Jill Jan B and Jay

10. 21/10/2020. Leaders Noi McCunn and Bob Mitchell

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Photo and Caption Clive – “Knarston Park – the set off point”.

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Photo and Caption Clive – “The road south from Taieri Mouth”.

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Photo and Caption Clive – “The happy team.””.

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Photo and Caption Clive – “Lunch at the beach.”

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Photo and Caption Clive – “Surfs up”.

9. 24/4/2019. Hikers. Taieri Mouth Area. Leaders: Chris, Dot, Alex and Liz.

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Route map, courtesy Ian. 8km limited to the 7 who returned after lunch. (The rest did 4km more not travelled by this Nike app!) The “8km” indicator hides the points on the map where the route started and finished.

About 26 Hikers and Ramblers mustered under a cloudy sky by the Taieri Mouth Bridge to walk through hidden nooks and crannies of the Taieri Mouth area, led by Liz and Alec.

We started off along Riverside Road and cribs that are only a stones throw from the flowing river.   A living history was related by Alec and Liz as we went past the cribs telling us stories of past and present inhabitants.   We eased along a lower part of the Millennium Track to a sheltered glade where we sat down for morning tea. More stories were told of holidays spent along these banks and of income gleaned from whitebait or discarded beer bottles.

C.1) Morning Teac

After morning tea we returned along Riverside Road to Hanning Place.   This is a turn off that is easily passed without discovering Picnic Gully.   Picnic Gully is a walk that used to be frequented by travelers from Dunedin more than a hundred years ago before the bridge was put across the Taieri.

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Picnic Gully. (Clive pic and caption.)

We didn’t miss it this time and were soon into the thickly covered bush walk

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which ended in a scramble up a bank onto a newly bulldozed track up onto Finlayson Road.   This track was very steep and soon had us all stopping to catch our breath.

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We learnt that this gully walk crossed the land of Alan Gorton who allows us to cross other parts of his land when going to the old sawmill.  We also acknowledge the work done on the track by the children of the nearby Taieri Mouth school.

Down the hill saw us entering Knarston Park and led us onto the beach.   It was now close to low tide and we could see it would have been easy to walk out to Moturata Island, but not today.   We continued along the beach and passed a recently erected old tree and masses of toa toa and pipi shells.   Charlie and Jess had recorded their presence in Toa toa shells which would last only until the next king tide.K.4aIMG_1907c

Lunch was now in sight.   We arrived at Livingstonia Park as the sun broke through.   There was discussion over lunch as to the name for the park be it Livingstone or Livingstonia.   Those in the know confirmed it as Livingstonia and was a living war memorial to returned servicemen and women with amputations and other injuries.

After lunch we headed up Coutts Gully Road to a walk up through bush at Livingstone – Green bush walk and lagoon.   Someone had taken a lot of time and trouble writing notices along the path explaining the history of the bush area.  There was a great view from the top along the beach to North all the way to Saddle Hill.

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The view from the top. (Clive pic and caption.)

Once down the hill we skirted the lagoon to see geese spoonbills and ducks before heading back to the cars by the Taieri Bridge.   We had walked nearly 12 kilometers in 4 1/2 hours.   Some wished they could have taken longer as there was such a lot to see and enjoy.   Maybe something to do on another day.   Thanks Liz and Alex.

– Clive


8. 5/12/2017. Both. Livingstonia Park. Moturata Island. M. Leaders: Bob and Phil.

Route Map, courtesy Ian. (Ian pic and caption.)

A combined 32 Trampers and Hikers ventured down  through Brighton to Taieri Mouth , certainly not expecting traffic lights at Kuri Bush!  Livingstonia Park was the starting point after being warmly welcomed by Bob and we set off towards Akatore passing a range of new property developments; just prior to moving on up the rise to the highest point of the walk, Bob detoured us onto the lawn, surrounded by sheltering trees, at the old NZ Forest HQ.

Morning tea at Forestry HQ. (Phil pic and caption.)

Some of us pondered the thoughts of this site having a ‘second coming’ with the new governments initiative of a billion trees…….

We then headed south with the breeze at our back, up the gradually increasing rise, enjoying the views of forest and farmland and sea, interrupted regularly by shouts of ‘truck’ and ‘car’. before Bob again turned us off ( clearly a man with great local knowledge and contacts!)   and headed down through farmland to the seaside.  Here we mounted the stile and various scouts attempted to find their way onto the beach.  This was more easily achieved by Bob when his hands were free after helping at the stile!

A mix of short beach walks, interrupted by rocky headland became the norm, requiring some inventiveness to move through the formations,

Into the promise land? (Phil pic and caption.)

as well as some rather intimate team bonding as some larger rocks were mounted!  Well done everyone!

Eventually the main Taieri Beach came into view and on we set following the curve of the surf to the ‘bar’; nothing changes when tramping, initial hesitancy to getting the feet wet to plain old just barge on in or take the boots off.  Rumours of a channel were probably proved correct as a ‘minor river’ was crossed before the main bar being traversed …

Sand bar, not showing heavy-flowing channel needing to be waded. (Ian pic and caption.)

… and we reached the Island at around 12.30pm, to be greeted by large numbers of nesting gulls;

 

Birds nesting on Moturata Island close up. (Ian pic and caption)

apparently the island was used to collect guano in the good old days, and you could understand why.

Colours on the rocks over on the Island. (Helen pic and caption.)

With low tide being over half an hour past, it was decided to return to Knarston Park for lunch, and shelter from the incessant sea breeze.  This was a good decision as the ‘minor river’ had increased in volume, requiring river crossing techniques for some.

The scale of the bar was impressive, being much larger than thought, as were the patterns in the sand and rock formations both at the island and on the rocky headlands.

Following a late lunch, (more so because of the early morning tea!) everyone safely made their way back to the cars and met up with others who had completed a shorter walk.

I am reliably informed  the full walk was 11.4 km and well, we won’t specify the altitude will we….

The day was very satisfyingly repleted at the new Brighton Café, where it seemed we had more than 32 folk chatting away!

New coffee bar in Brighton.(Helen pic and caption.)

( Ice creams from next door more than welcome, as both shops are apparently owned by the same folk).

Ho ho and have a happy festive season. – Phil.


7. 26/6/2013. Hikers. Knarston Park. Moturata Island. Leaders: J Knox, P Clough

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GPS of Route

It was a treat of a day. Well, yes, a bit of a cold wind, but – the sandbar!

We parked, morning-tead at Knarston Park on concrete picnic table seats that were not at all warm.

Then out to the sandbar. The tide was super-low, half a metre below sea-level. The bar was broad as broad. And dry. We walked and walked. This writer was overwhelmed with the experience of being on such a wide and long stretch of sand so under the waves at other times.  Eventually we reached the island.

There
At Moturata Island

We sauntered round. The tide was so-o-o low we were assured of plenty of time before heading back. We headed to the rocks the north end of the islands and scrambled over them to see the surf breaking on the seaward side of the island.

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Rock at northern end of island.

And then we sauntered back. Marvellous, as John Campbell would say.

The wind was still a bit sharp however, so we went back to the cars and on round the road past the fishing boats. A couple of fisherfolk said they had already noticed us and it was good to hear that locals keep a sharp eye out for the sandbar trekkers. Then on further to the start of the John Bull for lunch. (5km marker on GPS route map).

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Lunch at terminus of John Bull track.

Back down and across the bridge to walk round the beach on the river’s true left. Yes, back to the cold wind, but it was behind us. We observed the cliffs below the houses until we thought it best to get off the beach.  We climbed a set of steep large steps and up through a property and a wire fence to reach the highway at the top. (7km on map)

Onto road
Onto road

We took the road back, crossed the bridge and reached our cars at near the 10km mark. Thanks to Judy and Pam carefully checking out our chances the day before and their leadership on the day.

A most satisfying day. – Ian


6. 5/9/2012. Both. Knarston Park. Moturata Island – NOT! Leaders: Ian, Margaret.

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Morning tea time – when we were still optimistic of a successful outcome!
Tide, wind and flood were all against us.
Tide – Even though we had got the low tide time exactly as we had wanted, we failed to take in consideration that minimum low tide was still o.9 metros. Must aim for nearer 0.0 next time!
Wind – Although a boisterous wind was from off the land, whipping up sand and breaker spray, the waves were still coming in stronger than we had expected.
Flood – The Taieri River was in quite flood mode, breaking two channels across the sand-bar we had hoped to traverse.
S-o-o-o-o-o. We had morning tea. We walked down the beach to where the rocky part begins and back. We waited. And waited. Some more hopeful than others. Some more resigned to failure. We early lunched. Then walked down the beach again, aiming for a round trip through Livingstonia Park and back along the road, but short-cutted through a bit before that.
And then behold. KB contractors drilling a pipe-line for fibre-optic (we think) alongside the road with a wonderful machine. Complete with GPS guidance showing on a screen to the operator, it automatically screwed and push-drilled successive pipes through alongside the road and  under the ground, with a clever drill-head (we learnt on asking) that could tilt the pipe’s direction left and right, and up and down on the operator’s bidding. Marvellous! (To the technically-minded anyway.)
We were now close to the cars again. The day had been wind, but grew warmer as it progressed. Everyone was philosophical about the way the day had turned out.
Perhaps, as was suggested, a low-tide day late summer or autumn, when the Taieri is NOT in flood would be a much wiser day to tackle the Island next time.

5. 7/8/2011. Both. Taieri Mouth. Knarston Park. Beach Walk. Easy. Leaders: Lex, Graham.

There was a full tide around 11.30 a.m., which we cunningly exploited by negotiating the narrow beach parts before and after its peak.
The beach walk down river however, was rather constrained by the rising tide at one brief point, splitting the ‘(Fool(?)-Hardy Paddlers’ from the ‘Off-Beach-Detourers’ before we could make it to the large beach seen on the next pic.
The Taieri Mouth in the distance behind us.
Inevitably, we had to come to the rocky outcrops and were forced to make our way up a rope-lined track to paddocks.
A careful steep climb.
The track climbed. (Elaine pic.)
A view from the paddocks. (Elaine pic)
Further on, we were able to descend to another beach.
At one point, we were treated to a swimming seal lumbering its way out of the water to sun itself on a rock
Then it was time for lunch before retracing out steps back to our cars.
While we were seated, our President read out a text sent to us by Leslie S from hospital, saying she was feeling better and sitting up. (Today’s trip was a replacement for the scheduled trip to Waipori with Leslie and Bill as leaders.)
The lunch stop.

4. 30/6/2010. Hikers. Taieri Mouth. Beach Walk. Easy. Leaders: Lesley G, Neil.

A bitterly cold wind to start with. – Bill.
Taieri Beach, well wrapped up. Early lunch lunch stop. (Bill pic and caption)

Guess whose knees. (Members only.) (Bill pic and caption)
A necessary warm-up coffee stop. (Bill pic and caption)

3. 17/1/2007. Hikers. Taieri Mouth Easy. Leaders: Chris, Ray.

2. 14/6/2000 Taieri Mouth – Beach Walk. Leaders:Dot B, Joan H, Pam H

1, 8/2/1989. Moturata Island.

Moturata Island. Peg Chisholm, Molly Vaughan.

Booth Road, McGouns, Pineapple Track, Ben Rudd

No. 43 on old hardcopy list of 113 club tramps. “Booth Rd – Ben Rudd, R Hakkaart. Year Round”

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9. 15/03/2023. Hikers. McGouns/ Wakari Bike Track Grade: 2.5 Leaders: Jay and Jenny

17 keen hikers  gathered at the bottom of the Pineapple track in Tanner Road. We entered the Cragieburn track at the Corner of Wakari Road and Tanner Road. We walked up a short distance to an historical site where there were remnants of dairy farming in 1860. This area is well preserved and a lovely new seat has been installed for people to sit and enjoy the views over Dunedin and its surrounds.

We then proceeded on to the Wakari Bike track which took us through attractive bush and meandering Ross creek.

Photo from along the way Jill
Beautiful coloured toadstool on the trackside Caption and photo Jill 

The track was good underfoot and pleasant walking. We reached the top of the track in 45 minutes where we had our morning tea.

Photo Jill
Morning tea break at the entrance to the bike track Caption and photo Jill 

After that we carried on the track which was a mixture of lots of ups and downs.

Feels like an Avatar scene Caption and photo Jenni
Feels like an Avatar scene Caption and photo Jenni

The trees here were a mixture of natives and exotics. The redwoods were huge and stunning.

An interesting photo to ask Jill about
Found under a couple of trees tiny  pixie houses very cute Caption and photo Jill 

We carried on then to join the McGouns Track which has beautiful unspoilt bush. This was steep in places but nothing like getting the heart rate up to feel alive. At the end of the McGouns Track we were supposed to turn right but the leader took us left up another steep climb where we had our well deserved lunch break and there we enjoyed views of the city and harbour.

Nearing our lunch spot,great views Caption and photo Jenni
Nearing our lunch spot with great views Caption and photo Jenni

After lunch it was all downhill for a change to the cars.  We had two prospective hikers with us today, Margaret and Kay.  Coffee was at Sunnyvale.

 

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Bannockburn Camp 2023- Hiking, Tramping and Biking

3 -10 March 2023. Bannockburn. Trampers and Hikers and Bikers. Leaders: Anne and Rod Ward.

The club planned a trip to Bannockburn for three days of tramping and three of bike rides. This all started on Friday 3rd of March with accommodation at the old Bannockburn school now run by the Otago Outdoor Education Trust. Accommodation was a mix of the old schoolhouse, an attached cottage and the barracks for boys and girls at the other end. Anne and Rod had a full programme of activities for the six days, including delegating the evening meals to teams for the first four nights, this included providing nibbles, main course, dessert, and home baking for supper.

Friday 3rd March – Day 0
Travelled to Bannockburn and settled into the camp. It was a beautiful hot afternoon/evening under the veranda soaking up the atmosphere. With rooms sorted some had a swim, others happy to watch. Team 1 prepared scrumptious ham, salads, etc as required for the duty team.

Bannockburn day 0 John
First night, settling in. Photo & caption John
Bannockburn Camp Helen Day 0
Bannockburn Camp. Photo Helen

Saturday 4th March – Tramping
Link to Day 1 tramping report: Kanuka Track and Trail to Old Cromwell Town.

Sunday 5th March – Tramping
Link to Day 2 tramping report: Kawarau River Track.

Monday 6th March – Tramping
Link to Day 3 tramping report: Bannockburn sluicings, Stewart Town and Long Gully Loop Track.

Tuesday 7th March – Biking
Link to Day 4 biking report: Bannockburn Camp to Smiths Way and return.

Wednesday 8th March – Biking
Link to Day 5 biking report: Lake Dunstan Trail and Millennium Track to Alexandra.

Thursday 9th March – Biking
Link to Day 6 biking report: Gibston to Arrowtown and Back.

Friday 10th March
All that remained to do for those who stayed overnight was to pack up, tidy up, and head back home.

Thanks to all cooking groups for preparing and organizing meals, that were varied and enjoyable, great menus for the week.

Also to all the drivers for ferrying us to various start and pickup points, your service was invaluable and very much appreciated.

Overall our accommodation was well suited for our tramping group. Bannockburn Outdoor Trust was very obliging to our needs. I’m sure we’ll return for more adventures.

Thanks, Anne

Bannockburn Camp Day 1: Kanuka Track and Trail to Old Cromwell Town.

Saturday 4th March – Tramping
Day 1 – Kanuka Track plus Trail to Old Cromwell Town.
Lunches made, the tramping group (20) travelled to the Bendigo DOC Historic Reserve to complete the Kanuka Loop Track – 14kms from the Cromwell bridge to the turnoff onto Bendigo Loop Road and onto Mines Road to the carpark. The day was overcast with periods of drizzle so required jackets off and on as needed.

Bannockburn Kanuka track they are on their way Phil Day 1
They are on their way. Photo & caption Phil
Bannockburn Kanuka track Day 1 John
Morning tea. Photo & caption John
Bannockburn Kanuka track view of tarras Phil Day 1
Working out where Tarras Airport is? Photo & caption Phil

This track is 10.6km long, with elevation gain of 487vertical metres. It is a rugged trail with steep sections, but the elevation gains give you views from the Old Woman Range to the Saint Bathans. Underfoot it’s a variation of grass, tussock, rocky outcrops, with some good cover from the Kanuka and Manuka bush, Lunch was at the skyline ridge. Moving time for our tramp was just over 4 hours. Once back to the cars we drove up the hill to have a look at the relics of the old goldmining settlement of Welshtown, stone buildings and mineshafts from a bygone area. After much discussion we agreed the track rating would be 4.5.

Bannockburn hikers day 1 Helen
The 3 hikers. Dave, Helen and Raewyn. Photo & caption Helen

The Hikers (3) enjoyed a walk on the track to Old Cromwell Town for coffee and return 5.2km each way.

Bannockburn Camp Raewyns's team dinner Day 1
Team Raewyn’s tea. Photo & caption Phil

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Bannockburn Camp Day 2: Kawarau River Track

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Sunday 5th March – Tramping:
Day 2 –Kawarau River Track.
Due to rain overnight and start of Sunday morning we changed our walk to River Walk from Bannockburn Bridge up Kawarau River track (combined walk). Some walked return and others were given a lift back to camp where we had lunch. (4.5km each way) Very interesting walk which one day will join up with the carpark at the Goldfields Mining Centre.

Bannockburn Day 2 River walk Helen
Beautiful views. Photo & caption Helen
Bannockburn Day 2 River walk John
The long and winding road. Photo & caption John
Bannockburn Day 2 Mist rising John
Morning mist lifts on another day. Photo & caption John

In the afternoon Ross took us to the Quartz Reef Point Track about 6kms up the lake from the Cromwell bridge for a brisk 30 min walk from the carpark to view the formation of diggings in the shape of leaves (herringbone tailings).

Bannockburn Day 2 Northburn John
Hope this is worth it. Photo & caption John
Bannockburn Day 2 No need to go to the gym back in the day Phil
No need to go to the gym back in the day. Photo & caption John

Some travelled back to Cromwell Pool for well-earned spa & swim while others visited Highland Park racetrack.

Bannockburn Day 2 Boys and their toys Helen
Boys and their toys. Photo & caption John
Bannockburn Loos with a view Helen
Photo Helen
Bannockburn This one took Johns fancy Helen
This one took John’s fancy. Photo & caption Helen
Bannockburn Helen laying down the law to her 'boys'! Phil
Helen laying down the law to her ‘boys’. Photo & caption Phil

 

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Bannockburn Camp Day 3: Bannockburn Sluicings, Stewart Town, Long Gully Loop Track

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Monday 6th March – Tramping.
Day 3 – Bannockburn Sluicings, Stewart Town, Long Gully Loop Track

Beautiful weather for start of the day. Lunches made. We left cars at Bannockburn Camp just a short distance from School Camp and headed along Domain Road/Gibson Road to the start of sluicings and up to Stewart Town for morning tea with all of group.

Bannockburn Day 3 High Tea under the trees at Stewart Town Phil
High Tea under the trees at Stewart Town. Photo & caption Phil
Bannockburn Day 3 Heather's photographic skills to the fore John
Heather’s photographic skills to the fore. Photo & caption John
Bannockburn Day 3 Stewart Town Helen
Lovely old house. Photo & caption Helen

Here hikers and trampers parted ways, the hikers walking around through sluicings to Felton Road and back to carpark via coffee stopover.

Bannockburn Day 3 Hikers at lunch Helen
Hikers at lunch at the Black Rabbit cafe in Bannockburn. Photo & caption Helen

The trampers headed further afield to complete Long Gully Loop Track 7kms, a steady uphill climb, where we stopped for lunch at the top and admired magnificent views of Bannockburn, its wineries and further down to Cromwell and Lake Dunstan. We couldn’t have chosen a better day; the scenery was amazing. Lunch over and back down steep incline to complete Loop Track, a tired but very satisfied group on completion of track.

Bannockburn Day 3 Stewart Town tramp Phil
Boundary riders. Photo & caption Phil
Bannockburn Day 3 We did it Phil
We did it. Photo & caption Phil
Bannockburn Day 3 A long way down John
A long way down. Photo & caption John
Bannockburn Day 3 Felton road vineyard Neil
Views of the Felton road vineyard. Photo & caption Neil

Many sore and tired muscles took refuge in the pool back at camp.

Bannockburn Day 3 Wyn savouring Keith's cooking Phil
Wyn savouring Keith’s cooking. Photo & caption Phil

Neil started the evening meal with his version of grace, very apt for our group. Our yummy meal was followed by Neil’s quick wit for ‘News of the Day’ very entertaining thanks Neil. Shona and Keith arrived just in time to assist with meal preparation.

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Bannockburn Camp Day 4: Bike from Camp to Smiths Way and Back

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Tuesday 7th March – Biking
Day 4 – Bike to Bannockburn Camp to Smiths Way and return.

This was the start of the biking days so some of the trampers headed home after breakfast. After swapping poles for bikes our (15 bikers) first ride was from Bannockburn camp to Old Cromwell, Pisa Moorings and up to Smiths Way a round trip of about 52kms, on the return we stopped at the coffee shop for mostly our own homemade lunch; jolly decent of them to allow this for just a few cups of coffee. This was a 3-hour trip so we were home early.

Bannockburn Day 4 Cyclists Phil
Tour de Dunstan starters. Photo & caption Phil
Bannockburn Day 4 Crossing Bannockburn Bridge Phil
Crossing Bannockburn Bridge. Photo & caption Phil
Bannockburn Billy getting in the way Phil
Billy plays chicken. Photo & caption Phil
Bannockburn Day 4 Lunch at Pisa Moorings Helen
Lunch at Pisa Moorings. Photo & caption Helen
Bannockburn day 4 census night Phil
The census stumps the brains trust. Photo & caption Phil

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Bannockburn Camp Day 5: Lake Dunstan Trail and Millennium Track to Alexandra.

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Wednesday 8th – Biking
Day 5: Biking Lake Dunstan Trail and Millennium Track to Alexandra.
Getting a bit more adventurous, so this was a big day for some. The logistics keep our coordinator on the ball with lots of options offered and only one trailer to pick up bikes.

Bannockburn day 5 starting at Alexandra Phil
Starting at Alexandra. Photo & caption Phil

Some headed off from the camp to the Lake Dunstan Trail and others did the same but went down another 12kms on the Millennium track to Alexandra. Others started at the other end and came back, and a few did only the Millennium track. Everyone met at the Clyde Rowing club for lunch. It was perfect weather.

Bannockburn Sculpture on the trail Phil
Sculpture on the trail. Photo & caption Phil
Bannockburn the bannockburn starters arrive Phil
The Bannockburn starters arrive; the following numbers to weigh in are… Photo & caption Phil
Bannockburn Day 5 Lunch in the sun Helen
Lunch at the rowing club. Photo & caption Helen

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Bannockburn Camp Day 6: Biking Gibston to Arrowtown and Back

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Thursday 9th – Biking
Day 6: Biking from Gibston to Arrowtown and Back.

Final day, so we loaded the trailer and two cars with 12 bikes and headed to Gibbston Tavern, from there we rode to Arrowtown on the Gibbston River Wine Trail and Arrow River Bridge Trail, via the bungee jump bridge: 22km each way.

Last day Well spotted Phil, congratulations Phil
Well spotted Phil, congratulations. Photo & caption (other) Phil
Last day bridge Phil
Crossing the rubicon? Photo & caption Phil

Lunch at Arrowtown was pretty much a pie for everyone with a coffee or tea to wash it down, the riders returned to the Gibbston Tavern for a cool drink and pizza mid-afternoon, tea that night was light with all the leftovers from the week.

Last day pie Rod Phil
What a pie, definitely not a Jimmy’s. Photo & caption Phil
Last day animals Helen
Friends in the paddock and Dave. Photo & caption Helen
Last day gibbston tavern Helen
Pizza and cool beverage. Photo & caption Helen
Last day lunch Phil
A well earned pizza and ginger (alcoholic) beer at the Tavern. Photo & caption Phil

 

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Lee Stream Road Ramble, Scorgies Farm

24 km from car park.


7. 8/8/2023. Combined. Scorgie’s Farm.  Combined. Grade 2.5 (based on hikers valley walk).  Leaders: Jill Reid (Trampers), Jan Yardley (Hikers).

Hikers
There were 22 Hikers and trampers on this tramp as a large contingent were at Bannockburn on camp.

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Morning tea break (photo and caption Jan)

The group stayed together until morning tea, when those wanting to go up into the hills went off with Jill Reid.
The remaining 11 hikers carried on up the valley, firstly on a stony Traquair Road until we came to Scorgies Farm.

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Bridge at entrance to Scorgies Farm (photo and caption Jan)
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Mosgiel Motor Cycle Club caravan – trampers heading up hill in background. (photo and caption Jan)

This was more of a farm track and much easier underfoot. It was a perfect tramping day, warm and calm and there was no mud (unlike the previous couple of times it has been done). We didn’t quite make the big shed as it had turned quite hot by lunchtime and the co-opted leader spotted a shady roadside spot and elected to lunch there.

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Shady lunch stop (photo and caption Jan)

We could see the shed not too far away, so figured that was close enough. Had a chat with the farm manager as we started off back down the valley.

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Almost got to big shed – in distance. (photo and caption Jan)

Returned to the cars by the same route, very hot by then, and no shade so it was a relief to get to the end.
Cold drinks at the Wobbly Goat completed the day.
Jan Y.

Trampers.
The combined group of hikers & trampers parked by Lee Stream on Mahinerangi Road and all walked along the valley, initially on Traquair.

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Combined morning tea under Big Blue Skies. (photo and caption Pam)

After morning tea 13 trampers headed “to the hills”, enjoying the huge vistas on Michael Scorgie’s Lee Flat property.

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Gentle flowing “Lee Stream”. (photo and caption Pam)
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The long winding road ahead. (photo and caption Pam)

After a steep descent we crossed the Lee Creek – thank you Graham Thurlow for showing us how to correctly place feet and poles – very important if there is a large water flow!

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Graeme giving instructions on river crossing. (photo and caption Pam)
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– and put into practice. (photo and caption Pam)

We lunched by the Allendale homestead then crossed over Mahinerangi Road and looped through more of the Traquair property – lovely seeing the cattle grazing these hills.

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Theresa having a well earned rest. Perfect seat. (photo and caption Jenni)

A very enjoyable 15.5 km walk. Many thanks for your assistance Graham.
Jill R.


6. 7/8/2019. Both. Scorgies Farm. Leaders: Jan Y, Peter D, Jill R.
Hikers  – Scorgies Farm

After morning tea with the trampers, a group of 21 hikers carried on down the valley and on to Scorgies Farm.  The first part over the farm land was a bit wet, but Ok to walk on.   However, as we progressed further on the farm track, the muddy spots became more and more frequent.  My contact had told me ‘the track was a bit muddy, but just skirt around these areas’.  That was the understatement of the year – there was no bypassing the mud and we had to wade through which was heavy going.   Got as far as a pile of baleage, and decided to call a halt. Probably only a km or so short of the big shed, which was our preferred spot for lunch, but mud was getting progressively worse.  Some of the group lunched amongst the baleage, and the rest of the group headed up the hill a little to find a sheltered spot in the lee of the hill.  Met up again and returned the same way (same mud!!) back to the cars. It was certainly a pleasure to get back on to the Traquair land (which constitutes the first few ks of this tramp) and onto their well maintained gravel road.  One bonus – no one slipped over on the mud.  Jan and Peter.

Trampers – Scorgies Farm.

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Trampers’ route map. Courtesy Phil K.

After a combined group morning tea by  Lee Stream, …

G.2nd -- A great spot for morn. Smokoc
A great spot for morn. Smoko. (Gordon pic and caption.)

… 21 trampers headed for the hills!

G.3rd -- Trampers break off from Hikers.Pretty steepc
Trampers break off from Hikers.Pretty steep. (Gordon pic and caption.)

We climbed up a face between magnificent rocks,

P.2.1. Hello Hikers down therec
Hello Hikers down there. (Phil K. pic and caption.)
H.1.Looking down Lee Streamc
Looking down Lee Stream. (Helen pic and caption.)

walked over rolling hills bearing pockets of snow,

M.Hardy TRAMPERS in the snow todayc
Hardy TRAMPERS in the snow today. (Margreet pic and caption.)

then, taking a more circuitous route than planned,

G.6th -- Down & upc
Down & up. (Gordon pic and caption.)

reached the normally small tributary of Lee Stream at the bottom of Roundhill.

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Bit deeper,swifter and slippery than looks. (Gordon pic and caption.)

Today it was much higher than expected due to snow melt over the last couple of days. We decided it would be unsafe to walk through the creek  – just too much water swiftly flowing  over the slippery rocks!!!! Instead we enjoyed our lunch on rocky outcrops, looking across to the Allandale  homestead surrounds,

H.2.Lunch in the rocks with leader Jill mapping out a change of directionc.
Lunch in the rocks with leader Jill mapping out a change of direction.. (Helen pic and caption.)

then returned to the Lee Stream Track by a different route.

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On the way back to the cars. (Helen pic and caption.)

Distance walked : 16 km. – Jill.

5. 25/6/2014 Hikers.  Lee Stream Ramble, Scorgies Farm. Easy. Leaders: Arthur and Barbara.
GPS
GPS of route. We walked 12.66 km. Walking time 2.56 hrs; Fastest 4.6 km/hr; Slowest 3.95 km/hr.

I now title this tramp Lee Stream Road Ramble. The route is an actual road at each end, connecting Mahinerangi and Black Rock Roads, joined by a paper road in the middle, having reverted to a barely discernible track across paddocks marked only by  occasion ditch crossings, with one actual bridge over a more sizeable Lee Stream tributary.

26 Hikers parked outside the Mahinerangi end of the road, to be surprised by this notice on the gate.

The mind boggles. (John pic)
The mind boggles. (John pic)

At this stage of course, the road was well paved.

Start (John pic)
Start (John pic)

With a winter 9.30 a.m. start and quite a bit of a drive up SH87, the leaders stopped us early for morning tea on the following slope.

MT Panorama
An iPhone Panorama attempt of the tea break, not a patch on John’s much better pixelated lunch one. Apologies to the ones I caught bending over.

Paddocks were still saturated from frosts and rain. Today was astonishingly warm with a drying wind, but not enough to even begin to dry the ground out. Ditch crossings, although well gravelled (under the mud, if you could find it), were atrociously, extraordinarily, slipperarily muddy. Not everyone got through without a fall.

Mud (John pic)
Mud, glorious mud. Here you can see only the beginning. Down at the ditch crossing, it was hard to get through without a fall.  There were several of this ditches to negotiate. Paddocks were sodden. (John pic)

Here is the bridge separating Traquair from Scorgies’ Stations.

Bridge (John pic)
The Bridge (John pic. Hey! Well done, John.)

We trudged on, and on. A kilometre or two short of the end, about half a dozen of us had had enough and made their lunch stop there, leaving the rest of us to go on to the big implement shed. Its contents were well splattered with bird droppings, but each of us managed to find a seat acceptable to them.

Lunch panorama (John pic)
Lunch panorama (John pic. A much better panorama.)

Or if you prefer it, here is a video John took of us.

Retracing our route we found to be just as muddy, we several of us knowing we had done one of the longer tramps that the Hikers attempt. It was a good day out. While the rest of the country seems to have suffered heavy downpours, we benefited from the warmth of the storm’s margin. Thanks to Arthur and Barbara for thoughtful careful leadership. – Ian

4. 23/11/2011. Hikers. Lee Stream Ramble, Scorgies Farm. Easy. Leaders: George, Fred.

(Remembered for cattle alarm.)
3. 7/5/2008 Both. Lee Stream Ramble, Scorgies Farm. Easy. Leaders: George, Doug M

Permission.
Great farmland trip. Turn down 1st Mahinerangi Rd. Cross Lee Stream and park car park up other side. RH. Thru gate. Meander along well formed road on true right of stream. Lunch at Hay barn en route. Return same way.
The threatened rain did not spill, the intimated sun did not shine, the breezes didn’t waft, but twenty four trepid trampers (hardly ‘intrepid’ on this straightforward walk ) turned out to enjoy
the calm reaches of Lee Streem (sic: an in-joke for the “boys and their toys” fellows ), and the pleasant pastures, and beautiful big barn of Scorgie’s Farm. Well, not quite straightforward, as, after arranging ourselves on tiers of a rocky outcrop for morning tea (see photo), and crossing a decrepit bridge which leader George kept promising us would collapse just for us, there suddenly appeared, blocking our way, a vast vale of choumollier and turnips. A pincer movement was deployed and we eventually fought our way to the battle front again.
An early morning tea is rightly followed by an early lunch, and what better restaurant seats than the dry hay bales, pallets and timbers and butcher’s chopping block of the large, open barn where the smell of hay was incense to the nostrils of country wanderers.

Mushrooms were unfortunately not on the menu though Doug had picked enough for a good tasting.

Our return was by the same route, except that we skirted the western front of the turnip ground this time.

The various pedometers all seemed to tell us that we had traversed circa 15kms of this fertile and well-kept farm, (without seeing a single human movement), and several remarks were heard to the effect that if the speaker were to want to buy a farm, this would be the one. The only sad note to the day was at the carpark meeting point where we observed a minute silence for the passing of Mary Maxwell earlier in the week. – Bob

2. 5/3/2008. Both. Lee Stream Valley and Scorgies Farm. Easy. Leaders: Bob H, Molly.
1. 2/8/2006 Both. Lee Stream ramble, Scorgies Farm. Easy. Leaders: Bob & Evelyn, Lesley G, Eleanor W
Great farmland trip. Turn down 1st Mahinerangi Rd. Cross Lee Stream and park car park up other side. RH. Thru gate. Meander along well formed road on true right of stream. Lunch at Hay barn en route.  Return same way.

Racemans, North and Little Coal Creeks, Steve Amies

Racemans, Steve Amies Loop,Coal Creek – Information and Trips Library

14. 15/02/2023. Trampers. Silverstream (Raceman’s – Little Coal Creek – Steve Amies- Raceman’s Loop). Grade 4. $5 Leader: Phil Keene

The residue of Cyclone Gabbie hovering off the coast and threatening some rain seemed to have an effect on today’s turnout – only one car, one car, headed for the hills, but it’s hard to hold back quality! So we were parked up at the Powder Ridge car-park and on the track by 9.20am and shambled off up the road and we crossed the surging Silverstream with trepidation a couple of times, before hitting our straps on Racemans.

The famous 5 minus 1 cross the surging Silverstream (Phil)
The famous 5 minus 1 cross the surging Silverstream (photo & caption Phil)

Birdsong was prevalent, nearly drowning out the chat, with the whoosh of a pigeon or two over the stream. As on the day of the recce we were overtaken by a surging team of 5 collies out for their daily run with their Goddess mistress fast coming up behind.

Enjoying a cuppa on Racemans Track (Pam)
Enjoying a cuppa on Racemans Track (photo & caption Pam)

We morning tea’d after 45 minutes, looking out through a clearing across the valley, why is it ‘the other side’ always seems so more interesting. 1.5 hours from the car-park we took a deep breath to prepare for the ascent up Little Coal Creek and off up up and up we went.

A steady climb up Little Coal Creek (Pam)
A steady climb up Little Coal Creek (photo & caption Pam)

It was nice to have some of natures hand holds as we pulled ourselves up, being dry, very dry underfoot, just like walking on powdered cement.The going was slow though, to such an extent that these modern devices that people wear were sending out warnings that they were not recording any movement! Are you alright?

That was a good joke Phil (Pam)
That was a good joke Phil (photo & caption Pam)

After 50 minutes of huffing and puffing I’ll blow your house down, I swear I could have, we were at the junction of Little Coal and North Coal Creek tracks.

This way ladies (Pam)
This way ladies (photo & caption Pam)

From here the climb was more steady, drifting into plateaus, before the next bit of up. Time was taken to enjoy the views out through the bush to Pulpit Rock and Raingauge Spur plus poke our noses out over the rock ledges.

Time to rest and admire the view
Enjoying the views to Pulpit Rock and Raingauge Spur from Little Coal Creek (photo & caption Pam)
Towards Pulpit Rock (Phil)
Towards Pulpit Rock (photo & caption Phil)

3 hours from the car park we stopped at the Steve Amies/ Little Coal Creek junction and decided to have lunch here, with both sun and shade to help dry out the perspiration. Bees were prevalent and seemed to take a liking to the creams on our skins, some coming back for more, but no harm was done.

Lunch at the junction (photo & caption Pam)
Lunch at the junction (photo & caption Pam)

At 12.45pm we were up and off down what was a lovely Steve Amies track and the gradient was such that there was more time to take in the impressive Kanuka trees, some as big as the mature Pinus Radiata that have also made their home here. As to be expected, the track had to get steep again, and care was required as we ‘dropped’ back down onto Racemans, to be followed by a 40 minute stroll back to the car- park arriving back 5 hours and not a minute more from when we left.

the famous 5 minus 1 'dropping' down to Racemans off Steve Amies Track (Phil)
the famous 5 minus 1 ‘dropping’ down to Racemans off Steve Amies Track (photo & caption Phil)

Altitude gained was 509m and a little over 11kms completed. Grade 4 seemed about right. Consensus was a great day out and just 10minutes from home.
Phil K


13. 18/11/2020. Trampers. Racemans, North and Little Coal Creeks, Steve Amies.  Leaders: Ross and Wyn Davies. M.

18 trampers set out from the car park just off the Whare Flat Road, towards the pumphouse at 9.25am. It was a nice morning. We arrived at the Tunnels Track junction after half an hour; time for morning tea.

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Photo and Caption Gordon – “Morning tea.”

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Photo and Caption John – View from morning tea spot.”We made steady progress up the Racemans Track and reached the North Coal Creek junction and hour and a quarter later. After a brief pause for some energy food, we headed up the North Coal Creek Track. The track – such as it is – was in good condition. It is an unrelenting climb and we had a few stops to regroup on the way up.

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Photo and Caption Gordon – “Climbing rock wall on North Coal creek track.”

We reached the junction with the Little Coal Creek Track after about an hour. We carried on up the Little Coal Creek Track for another 15 minutes to a lunch spot with a view to the north.

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Photo and Caption Gordon – “Lunch.”

 

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Photo and Caption John – “View over the cliff edge at lunch stop.”

We had a good panorama of Powder Ridge and Long Ridge, Mt Allan behind, Pulpit Rock and Green Hill in the centre of the Silver Peaks.

The weather started to look more threatening after lunch, as we continued up the Little Coal Creek Track for another 20 minutes to the junction with the Steve Amies Track.

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Photo and Caption Gordon – “Happy campers at Steve Amies junction.”

By this stage there were a few showers; enough to make the track down the Steve Amies Track increasingly slippery. Everyone took the descent carefully and we made it safely without any proper falls. It took us about an hour and three quarters all the way down to Racemans Track, by which time the rain was getting more frequent.

Getting progressively wetter we retraced our steps along Racemans Track and back to the car park in about 40 minutes, arriving back at 3:50pm. Distance was variously measured at more than 15 kms, with an average of about 15.5 kms. It was a relatively longer day in terms of distance, time walking and ups and down, which everyone coped with OK. Some decided home was the best direction but 8 of us diverted to Blend Café for hot drinks and varying amounts of food.

 

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Quoin Point Bull Creek

No. 79 on old hardcopy list of 113 club tramps. “Quoin Pt – Bull Creek – Farmland (see George) Farm”

Bull Creek, Quion Point Information and Trips Library

45 km from car park.
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Coast and farm walk. Bull Creek nature walk to waterfall (tiny!) recommended.

16. 1/2/2023. Quoin Point to Bull Creek. Combined. Leaders Bruce, Alex, Helen and Phil.

Thirty-one keen walkers headed south and after regrouping at the turnoff to Quoin Point road parked in a paddock opposite the wool shed at the end of the road where lambs were being drafted.
1 Feb Bulls Creek Keen to get started John
Keen to get started. Photo & caption John
We followed the farm road leading down the hill towards Quoin Point and then turning right opening closing gates where appropriate before stopping after 15 minutes near an inlet with a choice of sun or shade. Shade was more popular.
1 Feb Bulls Creek Morning tea near Quoins Point Phil
Morning tea near Quoins Point. Photo & caption Phil
We continued across the paddocks and paused for a time near a caravan and new home above it on the hillside with natives planted in two paddocks while Bruce chatted to the land owner Peter O’Connor of Riversdale. Peter said he was happy for trampers to traverse his property and did not need to ask his permission in the future. The two paddocks are linked by a pipe gate and the best exit to the beach and Bull Creek was at the far corner nearest the sea of the second paddock. The path goes down the hill over some grey rocks and then along the coast to Bull Creek. He plans to mow a track across the lower part of his property in about two years to make access easier.
1 Feb Bulls Creek Neil on gate duty again John
Neil on gate duty again. Photo & caption John
1 Feb Bulls Creek An example of the beautiful farm gullies, planted in natives John
An example of the beautiful farm gullies, planted in natives. Photo & caption John
1 Feb Bulls Creek Local's dog, keen to come with us John
Local’s dog, keen to come with us. Photo & caption John
1 Feb Bulls Creek Going to visit the house on the hill Phil
Going to visit the ‘house on the hill?’ Photo & caption Phil
1 Feb Bulls Creek Happy trampers Pam
Happy trampers. Photo & caption Pam
1 Feb Bulls Creek Around the corner to Bulls Creek Pam
Around the corner to Bulls Creek. Photo & caption Pam
1 Feb Bulls Creek Watching over Bulls Creek Pam
Watching over Bulls Creek. Photo & caption Pam
We had lunch on the North side of Bull Creek in case the rising tide cut us off. A seal was spotted in the water at Bull Creek and another mammal seen in the distance on the rocks on the way back. Clare’s family had built a dam across the creek so that the seaweed in the creek could be flushed out once the dam broke.
1 Feb Bulls Creek Time for lunch John
Time for lunch. Photo & caption John
1 Feb Bulls Creek Bus iconic tree and three T.R.T.C. icons John
Bulls Creek iconic tree and three T.R.T.C. icons. Photo & caption John
Clare kindly arranged for 3 of the party to travel back by car; a 25 minute journey going near Milton.
The weather remained fine. Distance 13.56 km, Climb 384 m. We started walking at about 10 am and were back to the cars at 3 pm. There were many views of the coastal rocks. Hay tedding was in progress on one paddock and for the others the hay had been cut and baled since the recce.
1 Feb Bulls Creek Very precise windrowing Phil
Very precise windrowing. Photo & caption Phil
Future walks on the property might be considered for mid-February or after when the sheep are likely to have been shorn, the lambs drafted and the hay cut which makes walking easier. Thanks to the co-leaders Alex Griffin, Helen Morris and Phil Morris for their valuable leadership. Also to Neil for his opening the gates, waiting for the last person to go through and then, remarkably, being in position to open the next gate. He was also better at spotting where the next gate in paddock was, possibly due to his eyes operating at a higher elevation. Thank you again Neil. Our thanks are also due the land owners Alan Shaw, Gwen Lane and Peter O’Connor for their kind permission to be on their properties and to Clare for her local knowledge of the area and assistance with offering transport back to the cars for three persons.
Because the Brighton Café closes at 4 pm the group was given the opportunity to make their own choice for coffee, such as at Waihola or Mosgiel, or an ice cream at Brighton.
Bruce Spittle

15. 6/11/2019.  Quoin Point to Bull Creek.

RAMBLERS, HIKERS and TRAMPERS report.

On a calm morning 33 keen, happy members drove up Law road and along the coast through Akatore to Quoin Point road, driving a couple of kms down to the wool shed.  At 10am 6 Ramblers headed off to enjoy their day, leaving 27 to hike to Bull Creek.

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Photo and Caption Helen – “Up and down”
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Photo and Caption Gordon – “regroup”

We walked down through paddocks to the rocks where we had smoko.

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Photo and Caption Gordon – “Smoko among the rocks”

(In 2014 we tried to count the pod of seals both big and small), however, today we only spotted a couple along the way.  As well as 4 leaders, we had markers still in place from the Tokomairiro High school trail bike fundraiser held a couple of weeks ago guiding us. The paddocks were dry and nice to walk on.  With lots of gates to open/close, amazing coastal scenery, gullies with native bush, 3 old farm houses and a couple of creeks to cross.  2 hours of hiking then came to a standstill at the now fenced off access to Bull Creek.  Even with 2 stiles to cross over, their was not a track to be found.  We  back-tracked a short distance and found our way down.  3 Members decided on a bit of  bush bashing, 2 were through in no time———then through  came Doug (our 90 year old) with a grin, having enjoyed his scramble!!

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Photo and Caption Helen – “Doug taking the hard way down
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Photo and Caption Helen – “Bull Creek”

To save getting wet feet, a most enjoyable, sociable and scenic lunch was had by all on the rocks, before you cross the creek to the iconic kiwi cribs from 12:00 to 1:00.

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Photo and Caption Gordon – “Lunch at Bull Creek”
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Photo and Caption Gordon- “Couple of Kilometres left”
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Photo and Caption Gordon- “Heading to Cars”

Then it was time to head back the way we came, arriving to the cars at 3pm.  2 cars travelled down the Taieri Beach road through pine forest (a new road for some) while the others down the more scenic road to the Black Swan Waihola for Coffee.

As always another happy outing covering about 12 kms.  I think it is really important having the combined monthly hike, walking, talking and catching up with our hikers and ramblers.

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Photo and Caption – Gordon – “View”

BULL CREEK

Different theories on how Bull Creek got its name.  From a fictional character called John Bull, to the Otago Witness’ report in 1904 of the story of a wild Bull meeting a grisly end in the area, with the bull’s head later being hung on the wall of “Bulls Cottage”
The 42 or so cribs are spread over about 4ha and have their own 35 year lease, set up some years ago with the then land owners.
Eleanore, Helen, Bob and Jannette


14. 4/4/2018. Both. Quoin Point to Bull Creek. M. Leaders: Ian,  Arthur and Bob.

Hikers’ Route map, courtesy Ian.

The day was fine when twenty-seven of us started down from a  busy shearing shed at the end of Quoin Point Road to morning-tea down by the Quoin Point rocks. Both we and a multitude of inquisitive young seals were amazed at the sight of each other.

Quoin Point at the sealions gathering. (Clive pic and caption.)
Morning tea at Quoin Point.(Clive pic and caption.)

Ten trampers set off first, closely followed by eleven Hikers…

(Kevin pic.)

… leaving seven Ramblers behind to enjoy a more leisurely walk, which they took as far as the first house, returning along the beaches before having to regain the paddocks. They got back to the cars at 1.15 p.m.

For the others, the route varied between the flats of rocks and beach where practicable, and paddocks and gates where necessary. Towards lunch-time the query of “how much further” was beginning to be raised by some of the newer hikers. The hut-on-the-paddock’s site had complicated matters with new electric fencing forcing skirting around it before reaching the familiar route again. (We did better on the return trip.)

The trampers arrived at Bull Creek …

Bull Creek. (Clive pic and caption.)

.. in time to get round to including the picnic area and the  Bull Creek Bush Walk.

Along the waterfall walk. Clive pic and caption.)
Along the waterfall walk. (Clive pic and caption.)

The Hikers, with their much later arrival, (their walk enriched however with much mushroom-picking) had time only to get through their lunch

Brief lunch. (Kevin pic.)

before the low-tide’s turn prompted getting back across the creek.

On the return trip, our two groups were mixed and strung out as people moved off from Bull Creek in their own time. Admirably, Bob, our back marker, kept his disciplined place, to ensure we all got back in one piece.
This time, at the second stile, fortunately Arthur remembered to remain on the flat until we had got past below the little paddock hut before resuming the paddocks.
So we straggled back to the cars, strung out in various groups, some faster, others slower as the weariness of a 12 km tramp set in. Bob’s sterling work as back marker, at this point really paid off.  Several paddocks short of our destination one of us found the going too much and needed rescuing. Gordon, a new member of the club who had accompanied Bob stayed back to keep watch, while Bob strode on to fetch his large four-wheel-drive ute back to the rescue.
So all’s well that ends well. with the day ending with a congenial “coffee” stop off at Brighton. – Ian.

13. 30/7/2014. Trampers. Quoin Point to Bull Creek.

A good group of eight set out from the farm road at Quoin Point to walk along to Bull Creek. there was a bit of a wind blowing which kept the temperature down, & it was VERY muddy going across the paddocks. We didn’t get onto the beach very much as the tide was quite high, even although on the tramp program it was stated to be low at 11:30 approx. [Yes, a 0.3 m low tide i.e. on the higher side – Ed]
It was surprising to see that the gates along the coastal paddocks had “Walking Access” signs attached to them, so good on the land owners for allowing this.
We had morning tea in the shelter of some rocks, & lunch at Bull Creek. Lunch was a reasonably hurried affair, as the sandflies were eating more than we were!!! The exit of Bull Creek onto the beach was probably passable, but we didn’t fancy getting wet feet so we stayed on the Nth. side.
After lunch, it was just a return walk mostly back along the paddocks to the cars. The wind had started to dry out the very muddy parts, so it was only just a little less muddy going back. But, unfortunatly, one member slipped over at one point, & has some dirty washing to attend to !! We walked 12.3km in approx 4hrs. – Ken.

12. 5/3/2014 Both. Quoin Point to Bull Creek. Leaders: Lex and Peter.

Failed to reach Bull Creek. Ed note.

11. 13/2/2013 Trampers. Quoin Point to Bull Creek. (9)

Nine of us enjoyed the tramp, three of us oldies, six newies, to show it off to. And they did appreciate it.
We saw lots of seals/sealions (?) on the way.
It was surprising to see such a high sandbar at Bull Creek.
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A high extensive sandbar now. (Ian pic and caption.)
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Bull Creek water backed up by the sandbar. (Ian pic and caption.)

Although a souwester was very strong at times it was good tramping weather.
A feature of the tramp at its end was the discovery of a very flat battery in Ian F’s car, whose parking lights had been accidentally knocked on and left for 5 hours! With an AA call-out rescue, we got all got home by teatime. – Ian.


10. 2/6/2010. Both. Quoin Point to Bull Creek. Leaders: George and Dot.

It was a most unusual start. Various reports had it that after the recent rainy period the paddocks would be too wet or the coast road would have been damaged. As it turned out, not – in either case. The upshot was though, that one of the leaders led a number on a round trip road walk up the Scroggs Hill from Brighton. 12 went on to Quoin Point. Of the 12, only 4 went to Bull Creek.
It was a nice low tide, but the Bull Creek flood waters were too deep to comfortably cross.
Packing up after lunch. Ken, Doug.
The remainder stopped for lunch a few gullies back.
Bull Creek minus 30 mins. (Bill caption and pic) Lex and who?
The day was brilliant with little wind.
How did this get here? Noticed on the way back.
It was a good day out. All the more enjoyable for contrasting with the previous week’s extended rain. – Ian

9. 23/12/2009. Trampers. Ken and George. Quoin Point to Bull Creek.

A good walk on Wednesday, lots of rock hopping. It was a perfect day for it as well, with virtually no wind, and not too much sun either.
Returning from Bull Creek. George. (Ken pic)
Returning from Bull Creek. George. (Ken pic)

8. 4/4/2007. All. Quoin Point to Bull Creek. Easy+. Leaders: George, Hazel, Eleanor B, Joyce S


7. 1/3/2006 All. Quoint Point, Bull Creek. Easy. Leaders: Dot B, Glenis, Frank & Lesley


6. 6/4/2005. Both. Quoin Point. Leaders: Hazel, Dot B, Anne R, Colleen.

Ian and Bob
Tea Break. Ian,  Bob H.
Seascape
Seascape (Ian pic and caption.)
High tide at Bull Creek. No crossing today!
High tide at Bull Creek. No crossing today! (Ian pic and caption.)

5. 22/1/2003. Both. Quoin Point, Bull Creek. Medium. Leaders: Doug M, Bill and Pat, Denise.

4. 24/4/2002. Quoin Point Bull Creek. Medium. Leaders: Graham, Bill & Pat
3. 28/11/2000. Quoin Point. Leaders: George, Pam, Audrey K.
2. 29/3/2000. Quoin Point Bull Creek Leaders: George, Hazel, Bev J.
1. 15/5/1996. Quoin Point – Bull Creek. Return. Russell Road. Medium. Leaders: Jack M, George, Ted, Jack R.
Alternative: Woodhaugh – Leith Valley. Average. Leaders: Daphne, Mary Y